Comments on: It has begun… http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/01/it-has-begun/ The #1 Source For Everything Lakers Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:39:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Mien http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/01/it-has-begun/#comment-14003 Mien Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:41:55 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1097#comment-14003 I was introduced to this blog through a friend this summer and i'm glad because it helped me kill time while learning from you guys...I'm a kobe fan so as a result i've been subjected to various amounts of kobe, wade, nash, lbj, melo etc etc comparison threads.. I was thinking of a way to address some of the issues and strong remarks regarding people's view points.. BUT THE CATCH IS I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO THIS STATISTICALLY. i'm sure you will feel free to point out errors in my analysis because these stats might end up going against some of your believes: FGA / MIN & POINTS SCORED WITH EACH FGA PER MINUTE (TELLS US ABOUT EFFICIENCY) eg Though kobe had a bigger role during the title run then Magic, J.West and Scottie, He wasn't more efficient than Magic and Jerry west. imo this is a better measure of what role a player plays on a team. IN EVERY MINUTE, HOW MANY SHOTS DO THE PERSON TAKE. You wouldn't expect BYNUM or lamar to avg more than kobe. 2006-07 shaq would definitely avg less than wade in this category. Tim duncan (his whole career) [4.386 fga/mins / 10 seasons ] = .439 fga/min ie every 2.28mins he puts up 1 shot. PTS/FGA/MIN = 49.73 POINTS SCORED AL JEFFERSON (3 seasons) [1.088 / 3 ] = .363 fga/min ie every 2.76mins = 1 fga 27.82 POINTS SCORED J.ONEAL (11 seasons) [4.308 / 11] = .392 fga/min ie every 2.55 mins = 1fga 32.09 POINTS SCORED BYNUM ( 2 seasons) [.5 / 2 ] = .25 fga/min ie every 4 mins = 1 fga 16.82 POINTS SCORED Obviously Duncan takes up more of his teams shots than Bynum. The order of "who has a bigger role" amongst those four is T.DUNCAN, J.ONEAL, AL JEFFERSON, then, BYNUM NOW TO THE PERIMETER PLAYERS KOBE w. shaq(2000-2002) = [1.53 / 3] = .51 fga/min ie every 1.96 mins = 1 fga 49.59 POINTS SCORED J.WEST w. wilt (1970- 1972mvp) = [.99/ 2] = .50 fga/min ie every 2.02 mins = 1fga 53.17 POINTS SCORED S.PIPPEN w. MJ (1990-1993)= [1.6/ .4] = .40 fga/min ie every 2.51 mins= 1fga 46.08 POINTS SCORED MAGIC w. kareem(1980-1991)= [1.12/12] =.37 fga/min ie every 2.70 mins = 1fga 57.55 POINTS SCORED WADE (05-07) [1.43/ 3] = .48 fga/min ie every 2.10 mins = 1fga SHAQ w. kobe(2000-2002)= [1.52 / 3] = .51 fga/ min ie every 1.98 mins = 1fga 56.38 POINTS SCORED LEBRON (05-07) [1.55 / 3 ] = .52 fga/min ie every 1.94 mins = 1 fga 55.37 POINTS SCORED V.CARTER (05-07) [1.59 / 3] = .53 fga/min ie every 1.89 mins = 1fga 46.90 POINTS SCORED KOBE (05-07) [1.72 / 3] = .57 fga/min ie every 1.77 mins= 1fga 55.26 POINTS SCORED MJ (1990-1993) [2.46 / 4] = .61 fga/min ie every 1.63mins = 1fga 51.98 POINTS SCORED Just wanted to share this with you guys, what do you guys think..are there many flaws in this analysis?? I was introduced to this blog through a friend this summer and i’m glad because it helped me kill time while learning from you guys…I’m a kobe fan so as a result i’ve been subjected to various amounts of kobe, wade, nash, lbj, melo etc etc comparison threads..

I was thinking of a way to address some of the issues and strong remarks regarding people’s view points.. BUT THE CATCH IS I’M GOING TO TRY TO DO THIS STATISTICALLY. i’m sure you will feel free to point out errors in my analysis because these stats might end up going against some of your believes:

FGA / MIN & POINTS SCORED WITH EACH FGA PER MINUTE (TELLS US ABOUT EFFICIENCY) eg Though kobe had a bigger role during the title run then Magic, J.West and Scottie, He wasn’t more efficient than Magic and Jerry west.

imo this is a better measure of what role a player plays on a team. IN EVERY MINUTE, HOW MANY SHOTS DO THE PERSON TAKE. You wouldn’t expect BYNUM or lamar to avg more than kobe. 2006-07 shaq would definitely avg less than wade in this category.

Tim duncan (his whole career) [4.386 fga/mins / 10 seasons ] = .439 fga/min ie every 2.28mins he puts up 1 shot. PTS/FGA/MIN = 49.73 POINTS SCORED

AL JEFFERSON (3 seasons) [1.088 / 3 ] = .363 fga/min ie every 2.76mins = 1 fga 27.82 POINTS SCORED

J.ONEAL (11 seasons) [4.308 / 11] = .392 fga/min ie every 2.55 mins = 1fga 32.09 POINTS SCORED

BYNUM ( 2 seasons) [.5 / 2 ] = .25 fga/min ie every 4 mins = 1 fga 16.82 POINTS SCORED

Obviously Duncan takes up more of his teams shots than Bynum. The order of “who has a bigger role” amongst those four is T.DUNCAN, J.ONEAL, AL JEFFERSON, then, BYNUM

NOW TO THE PERIMETER PLAYERS

KOBE w. shaq(2000-2002) = [1.53 / 3] = .51 fga/min ie every 1.96 mins = 1 fga 49.59 POINTS SCORED

J.WEST w. wilt (1970- 1972mvp) = [.99/ 2] = .50 fga/min ie every 2.02 mins = 1fga 53.17 POINTS SCORED

S.PIPPEN w. MJ (1990-1993)= [1.6/ .4] = .40 fga/min ie every 2.51 mins= 1fga 46.08 POINTS SCORED

MAGIC w. kareem(1980-1991)= [1.12/12] =.37 fga/min ie every 2.70 mins = 1fga 57.55 POINTS SCORED

WADE (05-07) [1.43/ 3] = .48 fga/min ie every 2.10 mins = 1fga

SHAQ w. kobe(2000-2002)= [1.52 / 3] = .51 fga/ min ie every 1.98 mins = 1fga 56.38 POINTS SCORED

LEBRON (05-07) [1.55 / 3 ] = .52 fga/min ie every 1.94 mins = 1 fga 55.37 POINTS SCORED

V.CARTER (05-07) [1.59 / 3] = .53 fga/min ie every 1.89 mins = 1fga 46.90 POINTS SCORED

KOBE (05-07) [1.72 / 3] = .57 fga/min ie every 1.77 mins= 1fga 55.26 POINTS SCORED

MJ (1990-1993) [2.46 / 4] = .61 fga/min ie every 1.63mins = 1fga 51.98 POINTS SCORED

Just wanted to share this with you guys, what do you guys think..are there many flaws in this analysis??

]]> By: hZm http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/01/it-has-begun/#comment-14001 hZm Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:30:18 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1097#comment-14001 Bynum looks like a beast. Bynum looks like a beast.

]]> By: Lakers2410 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/01/it-has-begun/#comment-14000 Lakers2410 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:26:09 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1097#comment-14000 YEAH! Let's see how much Bynum improved, if Odom will actually live to what he said about being an all-star, how much better the Triangle wil look with Fisher leading it, how much everyone else trained & improved as well, and how much better the Lakers will be with Mihm back! YEAH! Let’s see how much Bynum improved, if Odom will actually live to what he said about being an all-star, how much better the Triangle wil look with Fisher leading it, how much everyone else trained & improved as well, and how much better the Lakers will be with Mihm back!

]]> By: KINGKOBE24 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/01/it-has-begun/#comment-13997 KINGKOBE24 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 07:09:24 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1097#comment-13997 this looks like some tupac sh*t yo,, this looks like some tupac sh*t yo,,

]]> By: shyguy_2004 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/01/it-has-begun/#comment-13992 shyguy_2004 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 06:16:10 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1097#comment-13992 Come preseason, we'll get an idea of if the rest of the Lakers step it up like Kobe is pushing for. Come preseason, we’ll get an idea of if the rest of the Lakers step it up like Kobe is pushing for.

]]> By: two0one7 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/01/it-has-begun/#comment-13989 two0one7 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 05:52:00 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1097#comment-13989 Here's a good report on media day: http://youtube.com/watch?v=LbTuKTGmoyM Here’s a good report on media day: http://youtube.com/watch?v=LbTuKTGmoyM

]]> By: foxxy http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/01/it-has-begun/#comment-13975 foxxy Tue, 02 Oct 2007 03:42:08 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1097#comment-13975 I AM SOOOO HAAAAPY THE SUMMER IS OVER!!!!! I HAVE GREAT EXPECTATIONS FOR OUR LAKER TEAM THIS YEAR...WE ALL KNOW WHAT KOBE CAN DO...NOW ITS TIME FOR THE REST OF THE TEAM TO SHOW THEIR STUFF....CANT WAIT FOR THE SEASON TO START...LOOK OUT BOSTON...WE WILL BE READY FOR YOU!!!! AND DEREK IM GLAD YOU ARE BACK...YOU BRING STABILITY TO THIS YOUNG TEAM!!!! I AM SOOOO HAAAAPY THE SUMMER IS OVER!!!!! I HAVE GREAT EXPECTATIONS FOR OUR LAKER TEAM THIS YEAR…WE ALL KNOW WHAT KOBE CAN DO…NOW ITS TIME FOR THE REST OF THE TEAM TO SHOW THEIR STUFF….CANT WAIT FOR THE SEASON TO START…LOOK OUT BOSTON…WE WILL BE READY FOR YOU!!!! AND DEREK IM GLAD YOU ARE BACK…YOU BRING STABILITY TO THIS YOUNG TEAM!!!!

]]> By: gugy http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/01/it-has-begun/#comment-13974 gugy Tue, 02 Oct 2007 03:25:39 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1097#comment-13974 I hope a good season and the Lakers will still have PJ and Kobe many years to come. Dreaming is good. I hope a good season and the Lakers will still have PJ and Kobe many years to come.
Dreaming is good.

]]> By: hZm http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/01/it-has-begun/#comment-13972 hZm Tue, 02 Oct 2007 03:04:54 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1097#comment-13972 I miss Staples Center. :-( I miss Staples Center. :-(

]]> By: MacBSlick http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/01/it-has-begun/#comment-13971 MacBSlick Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:53:44 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1097#comment-13971 hZm Heck yeah Im ready. Im so tired of this offseason I could puke. Bring on the Warriors! hZm

Heck yeah Im ready. Im so tired of this offseason I could puke.
Bring on the Warriors!

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