Comments on: Agent Zero for Mamba? http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/29/agent-zero-for-mamba/ The #1 Source For Everything Lakers Thu, 08 Jan 2009 08:59:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: DCLaker http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/29/agent-zero-for-mamba/comment-page-2/#comment-15713 DCLaker Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:25:49 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1416#comment-15713 If I was owner of the Lakers and I had the best player on the planet on my team,let me see.....Boozer(playing the 4),B.Davis or J.Kidd(playing the 1),Jermaine O'neal(playing the 4 or 5),but wait,they're no longer availble.I guess the customers are always right. If I was owner of the Lakers and I had the best player on the planet on my team,let me see…..Boozer(playing the 4),B.Davis or J.Kidd(playing the 1),Jermaine O’neal(playing the 4 or 5),but wait,they’re no longer availble.I guess the customers are always right.

]]> By: fatty http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/29/agent-zero-for-mamba/comment-page-2/#comment-15676 fatty Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:25:25 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1416#comment-15676 I don't normally comment on rumors but there is no truth to this rumor," Grunfeld said when reached by phone last evening. "We've never had any conversations with the Lakers or with anyone else about Gilbert - Washington Post I don’t normally comment on rumors but there is no truth to this rumor,” Grunfeld said when reached by phone last evening. “We’ve never had any conversations with the Lakers or with anyone else about Gilbert

- Washington Post

]]> By: foxxy http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/29/agent-zero-for-mamba/comment-page-2/#comment-15670 foxxy Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:03:52 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1416#comment-15670 [Comment ID #15640 Will Be Quoted Here]AT LEAST SOMEONE ON THIS SITE SEES THE TRUTH.THIS ORGANIZATION USED KB24 TO SELL TICKETS AND MERCHANDISE,AND DIDNT KEEP UP THEIR END OF THE DEAL TO GET SOME QAULITY PLAYERS ...THIS TEAM NEEDED A COUPLE OF VETS BESIDES KOBE TO HELP PULL THE YOUNGSTERS THRU.IF AND WHEN KOBE LEAVES,I WILL BE DONE WITH THE LAKERS.THEY SCREWED UP WITH SHAQ,AND NOW KOBE. 2 FUTURE HALL OF FAMERS ....GONE IN 5 YEARS.THE LAKER ORG. HAS BECOME A JOKE!!! IM GLAD KOBE ISNT AS DUMB AS KEVIN GARNETT.TO HANG WITH AN ORG FOR 12YRS. AND DONT GET ANYWHERE IS REALLY STUPID!!!ISNT THAT WHY YOU PLAY...TO WIN CHIPS???? OR IS IT JUST FOR THE DOUGH$$$$...WHICH WE KNOW KG WAS PAID WELL!!!! BIG UPS TO YOU KOBE"BEAN" BRYANT!!! I THINK IT TOOK GUTS TO HOLLA BACK AT YOUR SO-CALLED ORGANIZATION...TO ASK JUST WHO IS RUNNUNG THE SHOW!!!!

lakers4lyfe on October 29, 2007 at 11:35 pm said:

MPLAKERS, i see what youre saying about how kobe should not be whining and asking for a trade. but put yourself in his situation. what would you do? i mean, would u really stay on a team that is going nowhere just to please the fans? common man, we all know how that turned out for KG. true, he did not go out on a tantrum. but look where that got him, year after year without even a playoff appearance. why? becuase he stayed loyal, not only to his fans but to his team as well. and now youre asking why cant kobe be loyal to the lakers org and his fans? and my answer is why should he be loyal to the team? this is the same organization that used him as a scapegoat to justify a mistake THEY made, that used him to sell seats and make money. so why would he be loyal to them.

now back to KG…in the end he still had to leave, but that was after years and years of talent that was wasted. so what kobe is doing is the right thing. i admit at first i was pissed off when i heard he wanted a trade, but if you really think about it, its the only logical thing for kobe to do. so if youre a loyal KOBE fan you stick by him and forget about the lakers, you understand why he is doing what hes doing. if youre a lakers fan than you stick to the lakers and see where buss leads them without kobe. no offense but those that say that kobe is beign disloyal to the fans and the lakers org are just plain selfish. KOBE has been loyal to this team for three years, he played his heart out to entertain us fans and to sell tickets for dr. buss. and in return he got NOTHING. he got criticized for not being able to lead a young team with NO talent to the championship. now is that selfish? he stuck by them for three years, he showed his loyalty to the lakesr org and they showed him that he was nothign more than a money making machine for them, so again, why should kobe be loyal to them?

as for the fans, if you were really a kobe fan not a lakers fan, im talking about kobe the individual, not kobe the laker, than you would still be with kobe no matter what. and in return, he is still going to play his heart out to entertain the fans, its not like hes not gonna give his best on another team. we as fans cannot expect him to stay on the lakers team just because we LOVE the lakers, how many clippers fan or sacramento fans out there love kobe? im sure plenty, but they are not complaining that kobe is not loyal to the fans because he is not demanding a trade to the team that they love. you get where im going with this? so we as lakers fans need to understand the fact that kobe being loyal to teh lakers org is one thing, but beign loyal to the FANS is antoher thing.

and one more thing, you say that youve stuck by him through all the drama. is this because you are a kobe fan or a lakers fan? because if you were a real die hard kobe fan you would stick by him through this too. dont get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with being a lakers fan and putting them in front of kobe, but dotn say that kobe doesnt give a damn about the fans, because the fact of the matter in the current situation is; if youre a lakers fan, youre pissed off at kobe right now, but if youre a reall kobe fan than youre pissed off at teh lakers org right now.

AT LEAST SOMEONE ON THIS SITE SEES THE TRUTH.THIS ORGANIZATION USED KB24 TO SELL TICKETS AND MERCHANDISE,AND DIDNT KEEP UP THEIR END OF THE DEAL TO GET SOME QAULITY PLAYERS …THIS TEAM NEEDED A COUPLE OF VETS BESIDES KOBE TO HELP PULL THE YOUNGSTERS THRU.IF AND WHEN KOBE LEAVES,I WILL BE DONE WITH THE LAKERS.THEY SCREWED UP WITH SHAQ,AND NOW KOBE. 2 FUTURE HALL OF FAMERS ….GONE IN 5 YEARS.THE LAKER ORG. HAS BECOME A JOKE!!! IM GLAD KOBE ISNT AS DUMB AS KEVIN GARNETT.TO HANG WITH AN ORG FOR 12YRS. AND DONT GET ANYWHERE IS REALLY STUPID!!!ISNT THAT WHY YOU PLAY…TO WIN CHIPS???? OR IS IT JUST FOR THE DOUGH$$$$…WHICH WE KNOW KG WAS PAID WELL!!!! BIG UPS TO YOU KOBE”BEAN” BRYANT!!! I THINK IT TOOK GUTS TO HOLLA BACK AT YOUR SO-CALLED ORGANIZATION…TO ASK JUST WHO IS RUNNUNG THE SHOW!!!!

]]> By: foxxy http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/29/agent-zero-for-mamba/comment-page-2/#comment-15669 foxxy Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:50:04 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1416#comment-15669 [Comment ID #15597 Will Be Quoted Here]SUDDENLY...EVERYONES HATING ON KOBE...HIPERCRITS 4REAL!!!!

mplakers on October 29, 2007 at 1:44 pm said:

i’m a little peeved i didn’t get credit for sending this article in. also, if you guys check back on previous trade articles i’ve been suggesting this trade for about 3 weeks now. i am so glad that the wizards are considering this trade. kobe just needs to get convinced that a trio of caron butler, antawn jamison and the mamba is sufficient enough to contend in the east.

laker fan for life! no individual is greater than the team. good riddance kobe when they trade you. you’re no jordan and you certainly don’t come close to magic johnson.

SUDDENLY…EVERYONES HATING ON KOBE…HIPERCRITS 4REAL!!!!

]]> By: laker4life23 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/29/agent-zero-for-mamba/comment-page-2/#comment-15645 laker4life23 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:49:15 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1416#comment-15645 I agree with you there, we're definitely not going to see eye to eye. I don't like how the lakers org see's kobe as just a money pit and feel they need to put the pieces around him that gives him a shot at a title, and they clearly know they haven't done that. As for arenas to L.A., puts Arenas in the same place as kobe, but arenas will not accomplish the same things kobe has, and arenas is no where near as good of a defender as kobe is. I agree with you there, we’re definitely not going to see eye to eye. I don’t like how the lakers org see’s kobe as just a money pit and feel they need to put the pieces around him that gives him a shot at a title, and they clearly know they haven’t done that. As for arenas to L.A., puts Arenas in the same place as kobe, but arenas will not accomplish the same things kobe has, and arenas is no where near as good of a defender as kobe is.

]]> By: mplakers http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/29/agent-zero-for-mamba/comment-page-2/#comment-15644 mplakers Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:44:08 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1416#comment-15644 how can you say kobe wants to win more than those guys?...lol..now i know you're definitely a KOBE FAN and NOT A LAKER FAN...i have never known any laker that WANTS to WIN more than magic....the guy deffered to an aging, balding kareem for pete's sakes...now THAT IS WANTING TO WIN!!!! how can you say kobe wants to win more than those guys?…lol..now i know you’re definitely a KOBE FAN and NOT A LAKER FAN…i have never known any laker that WANTS to WIN more than magic….the guy deffered to an aging, balding kareem for pete’s sakes…now THAT IS WANTING TO WIN!!!!

]]> By: mplakers http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/29/agent-zero-for-mamba/comment-page-2/#comment-15643 mplakers Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:40:27 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1416#comment-15643 lakersforlife23...this is my last reply because we're not going to see eye to eye...and that's cool everyone has an opinion. you're "not getting rid of him" he WANTS OUT. you can see it in his avoiding questions like "do you still want to be traded?" with answers like "i don't want to get into it." go and check out the lakers.com site and see for yourself. kobe has the demeanor and the ghost whispering answers of someone who doesn't want to be here. ARENAS IS THE BEST OPTION BECAUSE KOBE WANTS WANTS WANTS WANTS OUT. i say give it to him.obviously he didn't learn anything from the shaq days when he WANTED his own team. KHARMA is a B I T C ...lol...finish the sentence lakersforlife23…this is my last reply because we’re not going to see eye to eye…and that’s cool everyone has an opinion. you’re “not getting rid of him” he WANTS OUT. you can see it in his avoiding questions like “do you still want to be traded?” with answers like “i don’t want to get into it.” go and check out the lakers.com site and see for yourself. kobe has the demeanor and the ghost whispering answers of someone who doesn’t want to be here.

ARENAS IS THE BEST OPTION BECAUSE KOBE WANTS WANTS WANTS WANTS OUT. i say give it to him.obviously he didn’t learn anything from the shaq days when he WANTED his own team. KHARMA is a B I T C …lol…finish the sentence

]]> By: laker4life23 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/29/agent-zero-for-mamba/comment-page-2/#comment-15642 laker4life23 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:39:15 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1416#comment-15642 lol what kind of fan am I if I'm pissed at the lakers org and kobe? lol what kind of fan am I if I’m pissed at the lakers org and kobe?

]]> By: lakers4lyfe http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/29/agent-zero-for-mamba/comment-page-2/#comment-15640 lakers4lyfe Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:35:28 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1416#comment-15640 MPLAKERS, i see what youre saying about how kobe should not be whining and asking for a trade. but put yourself in his situation. what would you do? i mean, would u really stay on a team that is going nowhere just to please the fans? common man, we all know how that turned out for KG. true, he did not go out on a tantrum. but look where that got him, year after year without even a playoff appearance. why? becuase he stayed loyal, not only to his fans but to his team as well. and now youre asking why cant kobe be loyal to the lakers org and his fans? and my answer is why should he be loyal to the team? this is the same organization that used him as a scapegoat to justify a mistake THEY made, that used him to sell seats and make money. so why would he be loyal to them. now back to KG...in the end he still had to leave, but that was after years and years of talent that was wasted. so what kobe is doing is the right thing. i admit at first i was pissed off when i heard he wanted a trade, but if you really think about it, its the only logical thing for kobe to do. so if youre a loyal KOBE fan you stick by him and forget about the lakers, you understand why he is doing what hes doing. if youre a lakers fan than you stick to the lakers and see where buss leads them without kobe. no offense but those that say that kobe is beign disloyal to the fans and the lakers org are just plain selfish. KOBE has been loyal to this team for three years, he played his heart out to entertain us fans and to sell tickets for dr. buss. and in return he got NOTHING. he got criticized for not being able to lead a young team with NO talent to the championship. now is that selfish? he stuck by them for three years, he showed his loyalty to the lakesr org and they showed him that he was nothign more than a money making machine for them, so again, why should kobe be loyal to them? as for the fans, if you were really a kobe fan not a lakers fan, im talking about kobe the individual, not kobe the laker, than you would still be with kobe no matter what. and in return, he is still going to play his heart out to entertain the fans, its not like hes not gonna give his best on another team. we as fans cannot expect him to stay on the lakers team just because we LOVE the lakers, how many clippers fan or sacramento fans out there love kobe? im sure plenty, but they are not complaining that kobe is not loyal to the fans because he is not demanding a trade to the team that they love. you get where im going with this? so we as lakers fans need to understand the fact that kobe being loyal to teh lakers org is one thing, but beign loyal to the FANS is antoher thing. and one more thing, you say that youve stuck by him through all the drama. is this because you are a kobe fan or a lakers fan? because if you were a real die hard kobe fan you would stick by him through this too. dont get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with being a lakers fan and putting them in front of kobe, but dotn say that kobe doesnt give a damn about the fans, because the fact of the matter in the current situation is; if youre a lakers fan, youre pissed off at kobe right now, but if youre a reall kobe fan than youre pissed off at teh lakers org right now. MPLAKERS, i see what youre saying about how kobe should not be whining and asking for a trade. but put yourself in his situation. what would you do? i mean, would u really stay on a team that is going nowhere just to please the fans? common man, we all know how that turned out for KG. true, he did not go out on a tantrum. but look where that got him, year after year without even a playoff appearance. why? becuase he stayed loyal, not only to his fans but to his team as well. and now youre asking why cant kobe be loyal to the lakers org and his fans? and my answer is why should he be loyal to the team? this is the same organization that used him as a scapegoat to justify a mistake THEY made, that used him to sell seats and make money. so why would he be loyal to them.

now back to KG…in the end he still had to leave, but that was after years and years of talent that was wasted. so what kobe is doing is the right thing. i admit at first i was pissed off when i heard he wanted a trade, but if you really think about it, its the only logical thing for kobe to do. so if youre a loyal KOBE fan you stick by him and forget about the lakers, you understand why he is doing what hes doing. if youre a lakers fan than you stick to the lakers and see where buss leads them without kobe. no offense but those that say that kobe is beign disloyal to the fans and the lakers org are just plain selfish. KOBE has been loyal to this team for three years, he played his heart out to entertain us fans and to sell tickets for dr. buss. and in return he got NOTHING. he got criticized for not being able to lead a young team with NO talent to the championship. now is that selfish? he stuck by them for three years, he showed his loyalty to the lakesr org and they showed him that he was nothign more than a money making machine for them, so again, why should kobe be loyal to them?

as for the fans, if you were really a kobe fan not a lakers fan, im talking about kobe the individual, not kobe the laker, than you would still be with kobe no matter what. and in return, he is still going to play his heart out to entertain the fans, its not like hes not gonna give his best on another team. we as fans cannot expect him to stay on the lakers team just because we LOVE the lakers, how many clippers fan or sacramento fans out there love kobe? im sure plenty, but they are not complaining that kobe is not loyal to the fans because he is not demanding a trade to the team that they love. you get where im going with this? so we as lakers fans need to understand the fact that kobe being loyal to teh lakers org is one thing, but beign loyal to the FANS is antoher thing.

and one more thing, you say that youve stuck by him through all the drama. is this because you are a kobe fan or a lakers fan? because if you were a real die hard kobe fan you would stick by him through this too. dont get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with being a lakers fan and putting them in front of kobe, but dotn say that kobe doesnt give a damn about the fans, because the fact of the matter in the current situation is; if youre a lakers fan, youre pissed off at kobe right now, but if youre a reall kobe fan than youre pissed off at teh lakers org right now.

]]> By: laker4life23 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/29/agent-zero-for-mamba/comment-page-2/#comment-15639 laker4life23 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:29:37 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1416#comment-15639 [Comment ID #15607 Will Be Quoted Here] mplakers I said here that lakers should move kobe for arenas as a last result and the earliest to do that is after this season. AND what ALL THOSE players you just mentioned ALL had champions around them, and the difference between kobe and them is he wants to win more than them. Im more a laker fan than a kobe fan, but I'd rather try to change kobe's mind by pulling an all star over to the lakers then getting rid of him for arenas.

laker4life23 on October 29, 2007 at 4:12 pm said:

Nyla, my answer to your question is that lakers want TIME. TIME that kobe is unwilling to give which is completely understandable. The lakers are developing good players but they arent at the championship level yet. Bynum can be a 10 time all-star in this league, Farmar is shaping up nicely, Odom and Walton are growing older and wiser. With the kobe-for-arenas trade, it gives the lakers a happy superstar, who is 3 and a half years younger than bryant not to mention has 6 NBA seasons less on his body, and at the rate arenas is going, he producing more than kobe at his age, Then again kobe had shaq at that age. I’m not saying Arenas is better than kobe because he is not, kobe is the greatest of his era, but Arenas answers the lakers wish for Time of development for the team and gives the lakers a happy superstar. This trade should happen at the earliest NEXT off season and should be looked at as a last result.

mplakers

I said here that lakers should move kobe for arenas as a last result and the earliest to do that is after this season. AND what ALL THOSE players you just mentioned ALL had champions around them, and the difference between kobe and them is he wants to win more than them. Im more a laker fan than a kobe fan, but I’d rather try to change kobe’s mind by pulling an all star over to the lakers then getting rid of him for arenas.

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