Comments on: TLN’s Post-Game Thoughts: Lakers vs. Rockets http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/31/tln%e2%80%99s-post-game-thoughts-lakers-vs-rockets/ The #1 Source For Everything Lakers Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:55:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: lakerschamps08 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/31/tln%e2%80%99s-post-game-thoughts-lakers-vs-rockets/#comment-15864 lakerschamps08 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:19:33 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1444#comment-15864 we was robbed we was robbed

]]> By: foxxy http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/31/tln%e2%80%99s-post-game-thoughts-lakers-vs-rockets/#comment-15859 foxxy Thu, 01 Nov 2007 00:02:41 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1444#comment-15859 [Comment ID #15825 Will Be Quoted Here]YEAH,I WAS AT THE GAME,AND THE BOOS REALLY DIDNT SOUND LIKE BOOS TO ME EITHER...ANYHOW ,THE SO CALLED BOOS LASTED HOW LONG???? 2 MINUTES OR LESS???? PLEASE...LA LOVES KOBE...AND WE SHOULD UNDERSTAND HIS ANGER AND FRUSTATION...HE JUST WANTS TO WIN AND WIN NOW!!!!

Steve Avery on October 31, 2007 at 12:41 pm said:

Finally…some positives from Lakers fans. I was worried you would all rip me for putting Kobe and Kwame as top 3 lakers despite the poor offense. Glad you all know basketball!

The one thing that got to me was some people say we booed kobe at the game in intros. Marge Hearn did the lineups and we couldn’t really hear her. So when she said kobe, the crowd I thought went “koooooobe” which came out like a lot of booos. So thats just my opinion, but thats what i said when he was introduced. Go Lakers!

YEAH,I WAS AT THE GAME,AND THE BOOS REALLY DIDNT SOUND LIKE BOOS TO ME EITHER…ANYHOW ,THE SO CALLED BOOS LASTED HOW LONG???? 2 MINUTES OR LESS???? PLEASE…LA LOVES KOBE…AND WE SHOULD UNDERSTAND HIS ANGER AND FRUSTATION…HE JUST WANTS TO WIN AND WIN NOW!!!!

]]> By: Die_Hard_LAKERS_FAN http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/31/tln%e2%80%99s-post-game-thoughts-lakers-vs-rockets/#comment-15845 Die_Hard_LAKERS_FAN Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:48:09 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1444#comment-15845 Was I the only one watching that game last night? I was at Staples and first off the vibe in there was awful. It was dead quiet as if the whole crowd was waiting for something to happen. Something, anything! I thought our D sucked. T-mac was doing anythign he wanted in the second half. B-Cook was as terrible as ever. I mean where did he get the idea he has a post game???? Kwame was OK on D against Yao and Kobe showed a few signs of effort out there. Don't get me wrong, I am a big time Lakers fan but that crap they brought out to the floor last night was a disgrace. Was I the only one watching that game last night? I was at Staples and first off the vibe in there was awful. It was dead quiet as if the whole crowd was waiting for something to happen. Something, anything!
I thought our D sucked. T-mac was doing anythign he wanted in the second half. B-Cook was as terrible as ever. I mean where did he get the idea he has a post game???? Kwame was OK on D against Yao and Kobe showed a few signs of effort out there.
Don’t get me wrong, I am a big time Lakers fan but that crap they brought out to the floor last night was a disgrace.

]]> By: mplakers http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/31/tln%e2%80%99s-post-game-thoughts-lakers-vs-rockets/#comment-15838 mplakers Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:11:48 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1444#comment-15838 you know why the lakers look flat on offense when kobe is not in the game? it's because they set up the post, bynum actually gets good position(yao on the bench), evans gets the ball and refuses to pass it inside to bynum who has shown he has really improved his moves to the basket. check it out on youtube, count how many times bynum gets good position and they are afraid to pass it to him. it must be a trust issue but, so far he has looked impressive in short bursts. the short bursts are because guys on the team don't give him the ball when they should and they opt instead to shoot jumpers. honestly, he impressed me more than kwame. bynum was on yao during the fourth and yao was a nonfactor. then pj subbed kwame back in...jeez i don't know why?, when the kid was holding his own, and right away yao hit two hookshots over kwame's small hands. I THOUGHT IF IT AIN'T BROKE WHY FIX IT???? why did he sub him out? it's time to start trusting the kid if he is the franchise's future. GIVE HIM THE DAMN BALL AND RUN THE TRIANGLE THROUGH HIM WHEN KOBE IS ON THE BENCH!!!!! you know why the lakers look flat on offense when kobe is not in the game? it’s because they set up the post, bynum actually gets good position(yao on the bench), evans gets the ball and refuses to pass it inside to bynum who has shown he has really improved his moves to the basket. check it out on youtube, count how many times bynum gets good position and they are afraid to pass it to him. it must be a trust issue but, so far he has looked impressive in short bursts. the short bursts are because guys on the team don’t give him the ball when they should and they opt instead to shoot jumpers.

honestly, he impressed me more than kwame. bynum was on yao during the fourth and yao was a nonfactor. then pj subbed kwame back in…jeez i don’t know why?, when the kid was holding his own, and right away yao hit two hookshots over kwame’s small hands. I THOUGHT IF IT AIN’T BROKE WHY FIX IT???? why did he sub him out? it’s time to start trusting the kid if he is the franchise’s future.

GIVE HIM THE DAMN BALL AND RUN THE TRIANGLE THROUGH HIM WHEN KOBE IS ON THE BENCH!!!!!

]]> By: lakerfan81 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/31/tln%e2%80%99s-post-game-thoughts-lakers-vs-rockets/#comment-15834 lakerfan81 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:20:38 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1444#comment-15834 Something like that. Some confidence would be nice instead of just standing around watching Kobe. Other than Fisher I am not sure any other Laker has the confidence to make big shots or even to attempt them sometimes. Something like that. Some confidence would be nice instead of just standing around watching Kobe. Other than Fisher I am not sure any other Laker has the confidence to make big shots or even to attempt them sometimes.

]]> By: fatty http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/31/tln%e2%80%99s-post-game-thoughts-lakers-vs-rockets/#comment-15833 fatty Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:17:14 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1444#comment-15833 lakerfan81 You mean like Bynum to Sasha "Pass me the @#$%^&* Ball" thingy? lol lakerfan81

You mean like Bynum to Sasha “Pass me the @#$%^&* Ball” thingy? lol

]]> By: lakerfan81 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/31/tln%e2%80%99s-post-game-thoughts-lakers-vs-rockets/#comment-15830 lakerfan81 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:09:49 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1444#comment-15830 Kobe does not deserve all the blame for taking bad shots or forcing the action. All too often the rest of the Lakers, just passed Kobe the ball and then stood there watching. Sure there were times when Kobe forced the issue when maybe he shouldn't have but the blame for that goes all around not just on Kobe. I don't think these young guys have enough confidence or the personality to stand up to Kobe and say "WHen you drive and the Defense collapses I am open on the wing all night just give me the ball". I don't know I think Kobe needs someone on the team that is more forceful and will demand the ball. Someone reminded me of Steve Kerr telling Jordan that he is open all the time on the wing so just pass the ball to me". It just seems like when Kobe goes on a scoring spree because the Lakers are struggling no one (including Odom) is forceful enough on the offensive end to get the offense flowing again later on. Kobe does not deserve all the blame for taking bad shots or forcing the action. All too often the rest of the Lakers, just passed Kobe the ball and then stood there watching. Sure there were times when Kobe forced the issue when maybe he shouldn’t have but the blame for that goes all around not just on Kobe.

I don’t think these young guys have enough confidence or the personality to stand up to Kobe and say “WHen you drive and the Defense collapses I am open on the wing all night just give me the ball”. I don’t know I think Kobe needs someone on the team that is more forceful and will demand the ball. Someone reminded me of Steve Kerr telling Jordan that he is open all the time on the wing so just pass the ball to me”. It just seems like when Kobe goes on a scoring spree because the Lakers are struggling no one (including Odom) is forceful enough on the offensive end to get the offense flowing again later on.

]]> By: fatty http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/31/tln%e2%80%99s-post-game-thoughts-lakers-vs-rockets/#comment-15829 fatty Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:04:34 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1444#comment-15829 One of those passes to Kwame led to a Kwame dunk. Sweet! Not listed in Truehoops One of those passes to Kwame led to a Kwame dunk. Sweet!
Not listed in Truehoops

]]> By: Steve Avery http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/31/tln%e2%80%99s-post-game-thoughts-lakers-vs-rockets/#comment-15827 Steve Avery Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:23:02 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1444#comment-15827 [Comment ID #15826 Will Be Quoted Here] I don't really think it works like that. The Lakers offense has plays it runs where you pass the ball and get it back on handoffs. Most of those were like that. Last night, aside from Kobe and Fish, everyone looked flat on offense. Kobe might have taken too many shots, but i think he needed to last night. Other Lakers need to step up and make plays. Last night they didnt. Thats not Kobes fault. When Lamar comes back, Lakers will do better. Lamar is a perfect complement to kobe. It seems like Luke was the only other Laker who could create for himself.

lakerfan81 on October 31, 2007 at 1:12 pm said:

Very interesting read on Kobe and passing from Truehoops

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-28-246/Thinking-Like-Kobe-Bryant-in-Crunch-Time.html

“To try to get an idea of how Kobe’s seeing his teammates, let’s examine how these passes turned out.

* Five passes to Luke Walton. Four times it comes back to Bryant, one time Walton gets fouled.
* Two passes to Jordan Farmar, leading to two missed jumpers by other players.
* Twice to Ronny Turiaf. One time it comes back, the other time it’s a missed jumper.
* Once to Maurice Evans, who passes it right back.
* Once time to Andrew Bynum, who passes it back.
* Once to Derek Fisher for the game-tying basket.

After considering how productive Bryant was on his own, and how little came out of his passes, one could make the argument that in his head, most of his teammates were not worth passing to with the game on the line.”

I don’t really think it works like that. The Lakers offense has plays it runs where you pass the ball and get it back on handoffs. Most of those were like that. Last night, aside from Kobe and Fish, everyone looked flat on offense. Kobe might have taken too many shots, but i think he needed to last night. Other Lakers need to step up and make plays. Last night they didnt. Thats not Kobes fault. When Lamar comes back, Lakers will do better. Lamar is a perfect complement to kobe. It seems like Luke was the only other Laker who could create for himself.

]]> By: lakerfan81 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2007/10/31/tln%e2%80%99s-post-game-thoughts-lakers-vs-rockets/#comment-15826 lakerfan81 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:12:05 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=1444#comment-15826 Very interesting read on Kobe and passing from Truehoops http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-28-246/Thinking-Like-Kobe-Bryant-in-Crunch-Time.html “To try to get an idea of how Kobe’s seeing his teammates, let’s examine how these passes turned out. * Five passes to Luke Walton. Four times it comes back to Bryant, one time Walton gets fouled. * Two passes to Jordan Farmar, leading to two missed jumpers by other players. * Twice to Ronny Turiaf. One time it comes back, the other time it’s a missed jumper. * Once to Maurice Evans, who passes it right back. * Once time to Andrew Bynum, who passes it back. * Once to Derek Fisher for the game-tying basket. After considering how productive Bryant was on his own, and how little came out of his passes, one could make the argument that in his head, most of his teammates were not worth passing to with the game on the line.” Very interesting read on Kobe and passing from Truehoops

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-28-246/Thinking-Like-Kobe-Bryant-in-Crunch-Time.html

“To try to get an idea of how Kobe’s seeing his teammates, let’s examine how these passes turned out.

* Five passes to Luke Walton. Four times it comes back to Bryant, one time Walton gets fouled.
* Two passes to Jordan Farmar, leading to two missed jumpers by other players.
* Twice to Ronny Turiaf. One time it comes back, the other time it’s a missed jumper.
* Once to Maurice Evans, who passes it right back.
* Once time to Andrew Bynum, who passes it back.
* Once to Derek Fisher for the game-tying basket.

After considering how productive Bryant was on his own, and how little came out of his passes, one could make the argument that in his head, most of his teammates were not worth passing to with the game on the line.”

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