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		<title>By: jd</title>
		<link>http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2008/06/08/nation-discussion-refs-the-blame-game/#comment-39038</link>
		<dc:creator>jd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bballer, of course lakers got calls going their way in the playoffs, its all apart of the David Sterns system to get the lakers and celtics to the finals (revenue,ratings).  The NBA needs to have a 2-3 year turnover of refs and the commisioner, otherwise it becomes corrupt, like it is now. Just like we elect a president every 4 years.
DCLaker, I don&#039;t think Stern has anything against kobe, Stern&#039;s all about getting better ratings for league and more revenues for playoffs and finals, so he uses his veteran refs to get what he wants...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bballer, of course lakers got calls going their way in the playoffs, its all apart of the David Sterns system to get the lakers and celtics to the finals (revenue,ratings).  The NBA needs to have a 2-3 year turnover of refs and the commisioner, otherwise it becomes corrupt, like it is now. Just like we elect a president every 4 years.<br />
DCLaker, I don&#8217;t think Stern has anything against kobe, Stern&#8217;s all about getting better ratings for league and more revenues for playoffs and finals, so he uses his veteran refs to get what he wants&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PatelPlaya</title>
		<link>http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2008/06/08/nation-discussion-refs-the-blame-game/#comment-39026</link>
		<dc:creator>PatelPlaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the refs were working for Boston. Never in my life have i seen a basketball game called so poorly. Those refs need to go get some new glasses and some more alot more training because they are obviously not seeing the fouls that the lakers were hit with. One sided game by far. I mean come on i wonder what the refs have to say about calling a game so stupidly. Oh well boston is in L.A. for the next few games. Sorry boston fans u guys cant win without refs who know how to call a game correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the refs were working for Boston. Never in my life have i seen a basketball game called so poorly. Those refs need to go get some new glasses and some more alot more training because they are obviously not seeing the fouls that the lakers were hit with. One sided game by far. I mean come on i wonder what the refs have to say about calling a game so stupidly. Oh well boston is in L.A. for the next few games. Sorry boston fans u guys cant win without refs who know how to call a game correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: BBallerInLA</title>
		<link>http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2008/06/08/nation-discussion-refs-the-blame-game/#comment-39021</link>
		<dc:creator>BBallerInLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Above post by Costa quoted from: 

http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/06/09/the-dark-lord/

P.S.  I also did NOT hear any Laker fan complain about the FOUL on Barry that was NOT CALLED on Fisher during the last second of the SPur vs Laker game.  Shall we also blame the refs on the Laker victory?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Above post by Costa quoted from: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/06/09/the-dark-lord/" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/06/09/the-dark-lord/</a></p>
<p>P.S.  I also did NOT hear any Laker fan complain about the FOUL on Barry that was NOT CALLED on Fisher during the last second of the SPur vs Laker game.  Shall we also blame the refs on the Laker victory?</p>
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		<title>By: BBallerInLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>BBallerInLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To quote a post from another web site:

I still haven’t heard any Laker fans who blindly throw out the 38-10 number as proof of evil from the refs answer for the 43-16 difference in their own favor in G2 against Utah.

Here are some comments in this very site from Laker fans after that game…

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“I think there were a few fouls that could have been called on the Lakers that weren’t but I’m not sure it would have done a ton to close down the 27 free throw differential”

“…, the whole idea that the Jazz are getting screwed by the referees is simply comical. They play a hard style and foul often because of it.”

“Add me to the list of people sick of Sloan, Boozer, Jazz fans, etc whining about the foul trouble.”

“As far as refereeing is concerned, there are 10% of calls that was wrong and against your team, 80% that was fair and right, and 10% of call that was wrong and was in favor of your team. I’m sure there has to be at least +/- 10% on each of the categories. (There’s no mathematical/statistical data to support this. I’m just estimating to make my point.) However, the fans of each side will remember the 10% that went against their team more than the rest.”

“I’m sure officials have blown few calls here and there, but there’s no way the officials helped DFish knock down 4/5 3 pointers [Note from me: Pierce was 4/4 3 pointers by the way] or allowed Pau to get easy looks inside [Note from me: How many dunks did Powe have?] or made Kobe’s acrobatics shots easier [Note from me: But it surely would make Rondo&#039;s acrobatic passes easier, right?].”

“My main point is that number of free throws do not always reflect impartial officiating as some Jazz fans claim.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote a post from another web site:</p>
<p>I still haven’t heard any Laker fans who blindly throw out the 38-10 number as proof of evil from the refs answer for the 43-16 difference in their own favor in G2 against Utah.</p>
<p>Here are some comments in this very site from Laker fans after that game…</p>
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<p>“I think there were a few fouls that could have been called on the Lakers that weren’t but I’m not sure it would have done a ton to close down the 27 free throw differential”</p>
<p>“…, the whole idea that the Jazz are getting screwed by the referees is simply comical. They play a hard style and foul often because of it.”</p>
<p>“Add me to the list of people sick of Sloan, Boozer, Jazz fans, etc whining about the foul trouble.”</p>
<p>“As far as refereeing is concerned, there are 10% of calls that was wrong and against your team, 80% that was fair and right, and 10% of call that was wrong and was in favor of your team. I’m sure there has to be at least +/- 10% on each of the categories. (There’s no mathematical/statistical data to support this. I’m just estimating to make my point.) However, the fans of each side will remember the 10% that went against their team more than the rest.”</p>
<p>“I’m sure officials have blown few calls here and there, but there’s no way the officials helped DFish knock down 4/5 3 pointers [Note from me: Pierce was 4/4 3 pointers by the way] or allowed Pau to get easy looks inside [Note from me: How many dunks did Powe have?] or made Kobe’s acrobatics shots easier [Note from me: But it surely would make Rondo's acrobatic passes easier, right?].”</p>
<p>“My main point is that number of free throws do not always reflect impartial officiating as some Jazz fans claim.”</p>
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		<title>By: DCLAKER</title>
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		<dc:creator>DCLAKER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD,I read your 1st comment about how the league is tryin&#039; to clean it&#039;s image,very brilliant comments.Do think Stern has a grudge against Kobe for what he did last summer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD,I read your 1st comment about how the league is tryin&#8217; to clean it&#8217;s image,very brilliant comments.Do think Stern has a grudge against Kobe for what he did last summer?</p>
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		<title>By: jd</title>
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		<dc:creator>jd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kobe&#039;s just frustrated, some of the players don&#039;t seem as motivated as he is, anyone in their right mind that puts the kind of work and determination as kobe does, would feel that way.  He needs to realize, even having the best team you can&#039;t win when you don&#039;t have the refs on your side.  That&#039;s why the NBA&#039;s corrupt.  The NBA needs a new commisioner and refs, they&#039;ve all been there too long and they&#039;ve built a corrupt system.  That&#039;s why you see players now a days don&#039;t give a s--- because they know it&#039;s corrupt.  They just put up there 20 pts 3 asst and acouple rebounds, and take their paycheck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kobe&#8217;s just frustrated, some of the players don&#8217;t seem as motivated as he is, anyone in their right mind that puts the kind of work and determination as kobe does, would feel that way.  He needs to realize, even having the best team you can&#8217;t win when you don&#8217;t have the refs on your side.  That&#8217;s why the NBA&#8217;s corrupt.  The NBA needs a new commisioner and refs, they&#8217;ve all been there too long and they&#8217;ve built a corrupt system.  That&#8217;s why you see players now a days don&#8217;t give a s&#8212; because they know it&#8217;s corrupt.  They just put up there 20 pts 3 asst and acouple rebounds, and take their paycheck.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2008/06/08/nation-discussion-refs-the-blame-game/#comment-38981</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Better not let me find out who you are cuz I&#039;ll show you who&#039;s stupid!!!!&quot;......
                           ummmmm.......I already know: it&#039;s you Laker fans.  Why would you reiterate that, dummy? 

Anyway, Kobe&#039;s a pathetic egomaniac who&#039;s not interested in making his teammates better.  That&#039;s why even Gasol was yelling back at him.  Kobe&#039;s always been about Kobe.  Read this excerpt from a courtside observer at game 2:

 Here&#039;s a selection of Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling, who was seated front and center for Game 2. An excerpt from his blog:


&quot;This one stunned me a little bit. Who doesn&#039;t know Kobe Bryant right? I only know what I have heard, starting awhile back with the entire Shaq debacle. I don&#039;t really have an opinion one way or the other on or about him other than to know that people feel he might be one of the 4-5 greatest players to ever lace it up. What I do know is what I got to see up close and hear, was unexpected. From the first tip until about 4 minutes left in the game I saw and heard this guy bitch at his teammates. Every TO he came to the bench pissed, and a few of them he went to other guys and yelled about something they weren&#039;t doing, or something they did wrong. No dialog about &quot;hey let&#039;s go, let&#039;s get after it&quot; or whatever. He spent the better part of 3.5 quarters pissed off and ranting at the non-execution or lack of, of his team. 

&quot;...as a fan I was watching the whole thing, Kobe, his teammates and then the after-effects of conversations. He&#039;d yell at someone, make a point, or send a message, turn and walk away, and more than once the person on the other end would roll eyes or give a &#039;whatever dude&#039; look.&quot; 

Nothing new there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Better not let me find out who you are cuz I&#8217;ll show you who&#8217;s stupid!!!!&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
                           ummmmm&#8230;&#8230;.I already know: it&#8217;s you Laker fans.  Why would you reiterate that, dummy? </p>
<p>Anyway, Kobe&#8217;s a pathetic egomaniac who&#8217;s not interested in making his teammates better.  That&#8217;s why even Gasol was yelling back at him.  Kobe&#8217;s always been about Kobe.  Read this excerpt from a courtside observer at game 2:</p>
<p> Here&#8217;s a selection of Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling, who was seated front and center for Game 2. An excerpt from his blog:</p>
<p>&#8220;This one stunned me a little bit. Who doesn&#8217;t know Kobe Bryant right? I only know what I have heard, starting awhile back with the entire Shaq debacle. I don&#8217;t really have an opinion one way or the other on or about him other than to know that people feel he might be one of the 4-5 greatest players to ever lace it up. What I do know is what I got to see up close and hear, was unexpected. From the first tip until about 4 minutes left in the game I saw and heard this guy bitch at his teammates. Every TO he came to the bench pissed, and a few of them he went to other guys and yelled about something they weren&#8217;t doing, or something they did wrong. No dialog about &#8220;hey let&#8217;s go, let&#8217;s get after it&#8221; or whatever. He spent the better part of 3.5 quarters pissed off and ranting at the non-execution or lack of, of his team. </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;as a fan I was watching the whole thing, Kobe, his teammates and then the after-effects of conversations. He&#8217;d yell at someone, make a point, or send a message, turn and walk away, and more than once the person on the other end would roll eyes or give a &#8216;whatever dude&#8217; look.&#8221; </p>
<p>Nothing new there.</p>
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		<title>By: SliqRiq</title>
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		<dc:creator>SliqRiq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Comment ID #38943 Will Be Quoted Here]

Better not let me find out who you are cuz I&#039;ll show you who&#039;s stupid!!!! You&#039;ll wish you never made any comments B I T C H!!

Take your Bull lovin A S S out of here!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Comment ID #38943 Will Be Quoted Here]</p>
<p>Better not let me find out who you are cuz I&#8217;ll show you who&#8217;s stupid!!!! You&#8217;ll wish you never made any comments B I T C H!!</p>
<p>Take your Bull lovin A S S out of here!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: haters</title>
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		<dc:creator>haters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lakers suck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lakers suck</p>
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		<title>By: jd</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is David Sterns way of getting ratings up on the East Coast.  The NBA East sucks right now, what better way to give the east conference a boost, then to allow trades to the celtics (garnett, allen).  This happend with  dallas vs miami 2006, ie (shaq, wade). David Stern&#039;s trying to create rivalries out of these teams.  The NBA is curupt and they know it, thats why they push &quot;NBA CARES&quot; so much.  The league doesnt want the US congress knocking on the doors of NBA players asking them about steriods like they do baseball players.  Just look at the size of labrons arms, how old is he again??

Back to the playoff games, I agree we got calls going our way that the spurs didn&#039;t get, but now that David Stern set up the finals that he wanted, he needs to leave the finals alone and not dictate the winner...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is David Sterns way of getting ratings up on the East Coast.  The NBA East sucks right now, what better way to give the east conference a boost, then to allow trades to the celtics (garnett, allen).  This happend with  dallas vs miami 2006, ie (shaq, wade). David Stern&#8217;s trying to create rivalries out of these teams.  The NBA is curupt and they know it, thats why they push &#8220;NBA CARES&#8221; so much.  The league doesnt want the US congress knocking on the doors of NBA players asking them about steriods like they do baseball players.  Just look at the size of labrons arms, how old is he again??</p>
<p>Back to the playoff games, I agree we got calls going our way that the spurs didn&#8217;t get, but now that David Stern set up the finals that he wanted, he needs to leave the finals alone and not dictate the winner&#8230;</p>
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