Comments on: Ariza verbally commits to Houston http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2009/07/02/ariza-verbally-commits-to-houston/ The #1 Source For Everything Lakers Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:37:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: LakersNewDynasty08 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2009/07/02/ariza-verbally-commits-to-houston/#comment-78547 LakersNewDynasty08 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:22:46 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=13555#comment-78547 wow guys stop being jackass's...this guy was a huggggeeeeeee part to our championship...sure he made the wrong decision and went to houston for the same amount of moneyy but come onnnn nowwww..im really pissed about losing him and picking up artest, ariza was a nice young talented player and we gave him away for a 30 year old bum that has the most overrated offense in the league? did i mention hes selfish..i dont want his ego ruining kobes mentality here and there.so lakers fans...cuss him out as much as u want, but me as a HUGE laker fan as well am gonna give him the benefit of the doubt...ill be laughing when this guy is putting numbers like 20 5 and 5 in houston Best of Luck Trev...always loved ya! now go do your thang in houston ma man ill be cheering you on! wow guys stop being jackass’s…this guy was a huggggeeeeeee part to our championship…sure he made the wrong decision and went to houston for the same amount of moneyy but come onnnn nowwww..im really pissed about losing him and picking up artest, ariza was a nice young talented player and we gave him away for a 30 year old bum that has the most overrated offense in the league? did i mention hes selfish..i dont want his ego ruining kobes mentality here and there.so lakers fans…cuss him out as much as u want, but me as a HUGE laker fan as well am gonna give him the benefit of the doubt…ill be laughing when this guy is putting numbers like 20 5 and 5 in houston
Best of Luck Trev…always loved ya! now go do your thang in houston ma man ill be cheering you on!

]]> By: LifeLongLakerFan http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2009/07/02/ariza-verbally-commits-to-houston/#comment-78483 LifeLongLakerFan Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:58:40 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=13555#comment-78483 Huh?? What?? Doesn't feel appreciated?? What is he talking about?? Anyway Trevor we hardly knew yee. Cya though! Oh well. Huh?? What?? Doesn’t feel appreciated?? What is he talking about?? Anyway Trevor we hardly knew yee. Cya though! Oh well.

]]> By: Nabil http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2009/07/02/ariza-verbally-commits-to-houston/#comment-78469 Nabil Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:29:16 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=13555#comment-78469 I have nothing but love for Trevor. He deserves a standing ovation from the Lakers Nation when the Rockets come into town. Let's not be a bunch of Jazz fans. Recognize that we don't really know how things really went down, we only know what the media told us. I think when Artest offered to play for the same money that the Lakers had offered Ariza, the Lakers decided to go in that direction and PULL THEIR OFFER TO ARIZA, who was probably at the time being told to hold on and see if another team could offer more then the Lakers (even if to just drive up his price to stay in LA). Can you hate Trevor for that? I can't. Give the guy some appreciation for a good season and a great postseason. Do you really think that with just Luke and Vlad Radd we would have even made the Finals? If the Lakers were still offering the same amount to Ariza after deciding to go with Artest, I would be surprised. I have nothing but love for Trevor. He deserves a standing ovation from the Lakers Nation when the Rockets come into town. Let’s not be a bunch of Jazz fans. Recognize that we don’t really know how things really went down, we only know what the media told us.

I think when Artest offered to play for the same money that the Lakers had offered Ariza, the Lakers decided to go in that direction and PULL THEIR OFFER TO ARIZA, who was probably at the time being told to hold on and see if another team could offer more then the Lakers (even if to just drive up his price to stay in LA). Can you hate Trevor for that? I can’t.

Give the guy some appreciation for a good season and a great postseason. Do you really think that with just Luke and Vlad Radd we would have even made the Finals?

If the Lakers were still offering the same amount to Ariza after deciding to go with Artest, I would be surprised.

]]> By: TONY32 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2009/07/02/ariza-verbally-commits-to-houston/#comment-78417 TONY32 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:43:49 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=13555#comment-78417 lol Is it ariza talkin or is it his agent MR. Lee? HMMm. Were going to miss you, but all good things come to an end. But not for us we're prob going to win again maybe you guys in houston could at least get the 8th spot. how about ditchin the agent and staying with the purple and gold where u belong!!!!!!!! lol Is it ariza talkin or is it his agent MR. Lee? HMMm. Were going to miss you, but all good things come to an end. But not for us we’re prob going to win again maybe you guys in houston could at least get the 8th spot. how about ditchin the agent and staying with the purple and gold where u belong!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Robert http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2009/07/02/ariza-verbally-commits-to-houston/#comment-78394 Robert Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:23:45 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=13555#comment-78394 I believe that one of the 'sticking points' was that Ariza wanted a multi-year contract (i.e., ~5, and not 3). He wanted to stay with the Lakers for a long time, but they wouldn't go for that. He's going to do that in Houston. Again, it's not quite as simple as "Ariza pulled a fit" and just demanded more $$. The whole basketball business is a bit more complex (and includes 'slimy' agents). Look at what happened with the whole Baron Davis/Elton Brand debacle. It just got 'fouled up'. (Baron came to LA, and Brand bailed). That's bound to happen. I believe that Ariza would have stayed, but his agent was playing the waiting game. Unfortunately (for him, not us), Artest stepped in and said, "I want to play here, and I'll play for nothing". Hard to beat that. Timing is everything. Ariza had a higher market value at LA, than (apparently) elsewhere. That's his agent's fault. Anyway, many here are being too hard on him. Take into account all the confoibles of the basketball business, and his inept agent. I'm sure he wanted to stay, but played a bad Poker hand. Then again, you 'current Ariza haters' should actually be happy that he did that - now we have Artest. I believe that one of the ’sticking points’ was that Ariza wanted a multi-year contract (i.e., ~5, and not 3). He wanted to stay with the Lakers for a long time, but they wouldn’t go for that. He’s going to do that in Houston.

Again, it’s not quite as simple as “Ariza pulled a fit” and just demanded more $$. The whole basketball business is a bit more complex (and includes ’slimy’ agents). Look at what happened with the whole Baron Davis/Elton Brand debacle. It just got ‘fouled up’. (Baron came to LA, and Brand bailed). That’s bound to happen.

I believe that Ariza would have stayed, but his agent was playing the waiting game. Unfortunately (for him, not us), Artest stepped in and said, “I want to play here, and I’ll play for nothing”. Hard to beat that. Timing is everything.

Ariza had a higher market value at LA, than (apparently) elsewhere. That’s his agent’s fault.

Anyway, many here are being too hard on him. Take into account all the confoibles of the basketball business, and his inept agent. I’m sure he wanted to stay, but played a bad Poker hand.

Then again, you ‘current Ariza haters’ should actually be happy that he did that – now we have Artest.

]]> By: race http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2009/07/02/ariza-verbally-commits-to-houston/#comment-78389 race Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:08:52 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=13555#comment-78389 I DONT KNOW WHAT WAS ARIZA THINKING U GREW UP IN LA WENT TO UCLA PLAYED FOR LAKERS...IM TALKING ABOUT "LAKERS" BEST FRANCHISE IN PROFESSIONAL LEAGUE...AND WINNING A CHAMPION.. GOING TO HOUSTON WITH ALMOST SAME MONEY LAKERS WERE GIVING U ...PLZZZZZZZZZZ.......... IM SORRY BROTHER, BUT UR NAME LIKE TURIAF,RADMONOVICH, IS GOING TO DISAPPEAR BECAZ U WERE ONLY GOOD WITH KOBE N THE TEAMATTES... THANX N GOOD LUCK! I DONT KNOW WHAT WAS ARIZA THINKING

U GREW UP IN LA
WENT TO UCLA
PLAYED FOR LAKERS…IM TALKING ABOUT “LAKERS” BEST FRANCHISE IN PROFESSIONAL LEAGUE…AND WINNING A CHAMPION..
GOING TO HOUSTON WITH ALMOST SAME MONEY LAKERS WERE GIVING U …PLZZZZZZZZZZ……….

IM SORRY BROTHER, BUT UR NAME LIKE TURIAF,RADMONOVICH, IS GOING TO DISAPPEAR BECAZ U WERE ONLY GOOD WITH KOBE N THE TEAMATTES…

THANX N GOOD LUCK!

]]> By: Drake Hunter http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2009/07/02/ariza-verbally-commits-to-houston/#comment-78386 Drake Hunter Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:02:29 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=13555#comment-78386 I wouldn't cheer for Ariza if u pointed a gun to my head I wouldn’t cheer for Ariza if u pointed a gun to my head

]]> By: Robert http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2009/07/02/ariza-verbally-commits-to-houston/#comment-78381 Robert Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:48:07 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=13555#comment-78381 OK, here's how it 'really' went down: Ron Artest really wanted to play with the Lakers (has, for years). Ron contacted his buddy Kobe (yes, they're not enemies - just competitors). Ron also let Lakers management know he would play for the Lakers at any cost. MK (Kup) had to then decide what to do, after free agency day started (June 30/July 1). Buss (and MK) are thinking: ok, we keep Trevor, we have a future power forward. We get Artest NOW, we have a few more championships left. Buss family wants more rings, while Kobe is still in his prime (yes, still in his prime - just needs to rest a little after this 2 year run w/Olympics, 2 Finals, etc.). Need more rings than Celtics (for Lakers), and for Kobe (> MJ). So, MK offers Ariza MLE only - gives him a chance to find more $$ elsewhere, if that's what he wants. Ariza's idiot manager plays poker w/Buss - can't beat Buss, he has a royal flush (or, an extra Ace in the pocket = Artest). So, Artest says, "OK, it's time - I'm going to the Lakers". This does not give Ariza (or his idiot manager) a chance to 'think' about it. Too late. Done deal. I think the 'salary cap' is bogus, by the way. It's set up to protect owners, and nobody else. Otherwise, we could have held on to Ariza AND gotten Artest. But, that's life. Ariza was a Bruin and a Laker, an LA native, and was part of this 'special' team that helped Kobe win it w/o Shaq, win it 'instead' of Prince James, and throw 1000 monkeys off his back. Ariza is the poster boy of this year's championship (well, also w/Kobe), so please give him his props and best wishes as he leaves for Houston (he and Von Wafer will make a great running team!). The basketball business (esp. slimy agents, and Stern's corrupt salary cap guillotine) screwed 'him', he didn't screw us here in LA. So long, Trevor. Thanks for the Championship, and have fun in Houston. We'll see you next year, and cheer for you. OK, here’s how it ‘really’ went down: Ron Artest really wanted to play with the Lakers (has, for years). Ron contacted his buddy Kobe (yes, they’re not enemies – just competitors). Ron also let Lakers management know he would play for the Lakers at any cost. MK (Kup) had to then decide what to do, after free agency day started (June 30/July 1). Buss (and MK) are thinking: ok, we keep Trevor, we have a future power forward. We get Artest NOW, we have a few more championships left. Buss family wants more rings, while Kobe is still in his prime (yes, still in his prime – just needs to rest a little after this 2 year run w/Olympics, 2 Finals, etc.). Need more rings than Celtics (for Lakers), and for Kobe (> MJ).

So, MK offers Ariza MLE only – gives him a chance to find more $$ elsewhere, if that’s what he wants. Ariza’s idiot manager plays poker w/Buss – can’t beat Buss, he has a royal flush (or, an extra Ace in the pocket = Artest). So, Artest says, “OK, it’s time – I’m going to the Lakers”. This does not give Ariza (or his idiot manager) a chance to ‘think’ about it. Too late. Done deal.

I think the ’salary cap’ is bogus, by the way. It’s set up to protect owners, and nobody else. Otherwise, we could have held on
to Ariza AND gotten Artest. But, that’s life.

Ariza was a Bruin and a Laker, an LA native, and was part of this ’special’ team that helped Kobe win it w/o Shaq, win it ‘instead’ of Prince James, and throw 1000 monkeys off his back. Ariza is the poster boy of this year’s championship (well, also w/Kobe), so please give him his props and best wishes as he leaves for Houston (he and Von Wafer will make a great running team!).

The basketball business (esp. slimy agents, and Stern’s corrupt salary cap guillotine) screwed ‘him’, he didn’t screw us here in LA.

So long, Trevor. Thanks for the Championship, and have fun in Houston. We’ll see you next year, and cheer for you.

]]> By: Harlum http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2009/07/02/ariza-verbally-commits-to-houston/#comment-78346 Harlum Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:50:57 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=13555#comment-78346 GREED KILLS.....simple as that , now you are playing on the Clippers of Texas...LMAO ..note to Bynum fire Lee asap... GREED KILLS…..simple as that , now you are playing on the Clippers of Texas…LMAO ..note to Bynum fire Lee asap…

]]> By: Drake Hunter http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2009/07/02/ariza-verbally-commits-to-houston/#comment-78345 Drake Hunter Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:49:31 +0000 http://thelakersnation.com/blog/?p=13555#comment-78345 "We'll miss you, Trev. No Matter where you go, you'll always be a Laker for life." Who writes this crap! I can understand the makers of this website being kind and loyal to players who are unwillingly traded or released from the team, but this guy chose to leave and go in a different direction. He wanted to get paid and he ended up getting paid the same amount the Lakers would have paid! He's not a Laker for life and neither is Caron Butler. During our three championship runs from 2000-2002, we used like 4 different power forwards. AC Green, Horace Grant, Samaki Walker, and Robert Horry. I can understand saying Green and Horry are Lakers for life but not Grant and Walker and they both helped us win championships also. Just cause Ariza played his part for one season during a championship run doesn't cement him in the hearts of Laker fans as a Laker for life. CARON BUTLER IS ALSO NOT A LAKER FOR LIFE!!!!! STOP POSTING THOSE STUPID COMMENTS! Let's not put (ALL) the blame on his agent. Ariza's agent was just doing his job trying to get his client the best deal but he still needs to run by the numbers to Ariza who does have the final say!! If Ariza really wanted to stay and knew he couldn't get a better offer, he would have taken the MLE. He gambled with the front office and tried to bluff his way into a bigger contract and got screwed. He tried using other teams as bait but the Lakers wouldn't bite. He never had the upper hand and the sad part is that he didn't know it. No he's F-U-C-K-E-D playing for a sorry team! I have no pity for him and HE IS NOT A LAKER FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!! “We’ll miss you, Trev. No Matter where you go, you’ll always be a Laker for life.”

Who writes this crap! I can understand the makers of this website being kind and loyal to players who are unwillingly traded or released from the team, but this guy chose to leave and go in a different direction. He wanted to get paid and he ended up getting paid the same amount the Lakers would have paid!

He’s not a Laker for life and neither is Caron Butler. During our three championship runs from 2000-2002, we used like 4 different power forwards. AC Green, Horace Grant, Samaki Walker, and Robert Horry. I can understand saying Green and Horry are Lakers for life but not Grant and Walker and they both helped us win championships also. Just cause Ariza played his part for one season during a championship run doesn’t cement him in the hearts of Laker fans as a Laker for life. CARON BUTLER IS ALSO NOT A LAKER FOR LIFE!!!!!

STOP POSTING THOSE STUPID COMMENTS!

Let’s not put (ALL) the blame on his agent. Ariza’s agent was just doing his job trying to get his client the best deal but he still needs to run by the numbers to Ariza who does have the final say!!

If Ariza really wanted to stay and knew he couldn’t get a better offer, he would have taken the MLE. He gambled with the front office and tried to bluff his way into a bigger contract and got screwed. He tried using other teams as bait but the Lakers wouldn’t bite. He never had the upper hand and the sad part is that he didn’t know it. No he’s F-U-C-K-E-D playing for a sorry team! I have no pity for him and HE IS NOT A LAKER FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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